iced tea

Enid Pearsons epearsons at RANDOMHOUSE.COM
Mon Aug 2 22:19:17 UTC 1999


It's not limited to the South.  "Ice tea" exists on restaurant menus and
restaurant and supermarket signs all over New York City.  The wedding of
/d/ and /t/ seems a reasonable explanation until you also notice the
proliferation of "can soda," "can milk," "butter roll," and other examples
that do not come so readily to mind.  My personal favorite is "lady shoes,"
which does have a phonological explanation.  But I can't shake the image.

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From:  Jessie Emerson <jessie @ SIRSI.COM>
Date:  08/02/99 04:38 PM
Subject:  Re: iced tea




My gut feeling is that "ice tea" is a southernism, and not something that
is
written very often; i.e., you go into a restaurant and order "ice tea" (the
d and the t becoming indistinguishable).  These same people may write it
either way, with or without the d.  And it seems from Nexis that "iced tea"
is the predominate written form.

Conversely, if it is a southernism, the d of "iced" is never pronounced,
even though the speaker may write it with the d.

Jessie
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Subject: iced tea


> My curiosity has been stirred up.  In one of Popik's recent quotations
> there is a reference to ice tea being more common in Texas.
>
> >     "So much tea is consumed here year-round that you might even call
> iced
> >tea 'the national beverage of Texas.'  Historically, it is called
> 'ice' tea
> >in Texas.  Iced tea was created by an Indian tea merchant who couldn't
> sell
> >his hot tea at the St. Louis World's Fair in 1904."
> >--"Tea Pleasures," HOUSTON CHRONICLE, 26 July 1995.
>
> I have not found any reference yet in dialect dictionaries as to the
> dialect variation of ice vs. iced tea.
>
> DAE has only iced tea.
> DA has only iced tea.
> WU3 has iced tea as the main entry and ice tea with a cross reference.
> OED has no reference to either.
> OEDs has no reference to either.
> Cent. Dict. has only iced tea.
> DARE has no reference to either.
> AmDiDic has no reference to either.
>
> Nexis shows 24,500 articles for iced tea
> Nexis shows   4,200 articles for ice tea.
>
> Has anyone a feeling for possible geographical or social distribution
> for these two terms?
>
> Regards,
> David K. Barnhart
> barnhart at highlands.com



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