cacha?a and OFF TOPIC

James E. Clapp jeclapp at WANS.NET
Fri Mar 10 07:11:54 UTC 2000


[Mike Salovesh wrote this reply to a question about his table of special
characters that can be entered with the Alt key plus three-digit numbers
on the number pad.  The reply includes a whole new table showing special
characters that can be entered in Windows applications using the Alt key
plus four-digit numbers on the number pad.  It's very nice to have, and
Mike has given me permission to forward his letter to the list.  (I would
just add that, at least in Windows 98, Alt+0128 gives you the euro symbol
--which may or may not look like this (€), depending on whether it
survives this transmission.)  JC]


"James E. Clapp" wrote:

> An off-list question about that very useful chart you provided to the
> ADS list:  Are you sure about characters 224 and 226?  I get those with
> 225 and 227.

I've been waiting for just the right place to say this:

My bad !

224=_  225=ß  226=_  227=¶

(I see the symbols listed for 224 and 226 as underlines; YMMV.  That
means no special characters at those numbers.)

I found part of the answer to the other question you asked, about how I
got to specify ISO-8859-1.  It's in a Netscape menu that comes up when
in composition mode (meaning while you're trying to write a message).
Go to View, and on the pulldown menu go to Character Set; that lets you
choose from a long list of alternative character sets.

Do you ever get a deep resonance with the old Japanese statement "When
your only tool is a hammer, you first treat everything in the world as
if it were a nail"? I'm beginning to feel that my tools are dictating my
work, instead of vice versa.

-- mike salovesh                    <salovesh at niu.edu>
PEACE !!!

P.S.:  Now's my chance to try the four-digit extended characters, which
Andrea says are the Windows implementation of extended ASCII.  (I gather
she means that these characters will not reproduce the same way on a
Mac.)  New symbols begin at <ALT> 130:

        0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9
--------------------------------------
013_    ‚  ƒ  „  
  †  ‡  ˆ  ‰     ‹
--------------------------------------
014_    Œ              ‘  ’  “  ”  •
--------------------------------------
015_    –  —  ˜  ™  š  ›  œ        Ÿ
--------------------------------------
016_       ¡  ¢  £  ¤  ¥  ¦  §  ¨  ©
--------------------------------------
017_    ª  «  ¬  ­  ®  ¯  °  ±  ²  ³
--------------------------------------
018_    ´  µ  ¶  ·  ¸  ¹  º  »  ¼  ½
--------------------------------------
019_    ¾  ¿  À  Á  Â  Ã  Ä  Å  Æ  Ç
--------------------------------------
020_    È  É  Ê  Ë  Ì  Í  Î  Ï  Ð  Ñ
--------------------------------------
021_    Ò  Ó  Ô  Õ  Ö  ×  Ø  Ù  Ú  Û
--------------------------------------
022_    Ü  Ý  Þ  ß  à  á  â  ã  ä  å
--------------------------------------
023_    æ  ç  è  é  ê  ë  ì  í  î  ï
--------------------------------------
024_    ð  ñ  ò  ó  ô  õ  ö  ÷  ø  ù
--------------------------------------
025_    ú  û  ü  ý  þ  ÿ
--------------------------------------

After that, nothing happens until 0289, which starts a restatement of
the more familiar alphabet and symbols.

Wow! I see a couple of graphs I can use.  When I retype my list of
extended characters, I'll add this other set. Thanks for giving me an
excuse for typing this out.



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