[Fwd: [Fwd: a publishing dilemma]]

[Cynthia Bernstein]

Could this be made an on-line publication?  Its usefulness might be expanded
that way, and the costs of getting it to users would be minimal.

Cindy Bernstein
cbernstn at Memphis.edu

P.S.  Although lexicography isn't my immediate research area, I have a
special affinity for prison language.  My grandfather was Hyman E. Goldin, a
one-time prison rabbi and editor of Dictionary of American Underworld Lingo.

----- Original Message -----
From: <RonButters at AOL.COM>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: a publishing dilemma]]


> This is really interesting. I doubt that this could be a PADS ms. at this
> late date, but it is possible that Connie Eble might be interested in
putting
> some of this in AMERICAN SPEECH.
>
> It would also, of course, most likely be a real service to scholarship to
> post the manuscript on the web.
>
>
> Ron Butters
> Chief Editor, American Dialect Society Publications
>
> In a message dated 4/3/2001 9:25:24 PM, kant1 at RCNCHICAGO.COM writes:
>
> << Following Allan Metcalf's suggestion, I am sending the following
inquiry
>
> to the ADS list serve.  I will be pleased to receive your communications
>
> on this dilemma.  Joanne Spencer Kantrowitz, Ph.D., Chicago, 1967
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
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>      Subject: [Fwd: a publishing dilemma]
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>         Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:02:27 -0500
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>         From: nathan & joanne kantrowitz <kant1 at rcnchicago.com>
>
> Organization: Writers
>
>           To: joanne kantrowitz <kant1 at rcnchicago.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
>      Subject: a publishing dilemma
>
>         Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:52:31 -0600
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>         From: nathan & joanne kantrowitz <kant1 at rcnchicago.com>
>
> Organization: Writers
>
>           To: AAllan at aol.com
>
>
> Dear Professor Metcalf,
>
> We have had the strange experience recently of meeting a prison language
>
> research professor who had been searching for our study in vain.  That
>
> is/was Stateville Names which was cited by McDavid and Maurer in their
>
> revision of Mencken, was supposed to be published by PADS around 1965
>
> and then was shot down over fear of right-wing attack and threat to the
>
> first federal grant forthcoming for Cassidy's dictionary. The Ms. was
>
> the first full study of prison language as collected in Stateville
>
> Penitentiary and, of necessity, contained much maladiction.   The Ms.
>
> languished with a small publisher who went defunct after losing tenure
>
> in the 70's.  In disgust, we laid the book aside.
>
> One portion of it was published by Alan Dundes in his Mother Wit
>
> anthology.  In other words, the work has been footnoted, listed in
>
> bibliographies (?), but no one had access to it because it was never
>
> published.  Two copies exist in typescript:  one is deposited with the
>
> papers of David W. Maurer at the University of Louisville; the other is
>
> with the Chicago Historical Society in the Stateville Papers of Nathan
>
> Kantrowitz.
>
> Whether this is worth posting on the web or listed with an on-demand
>
> publisher, I haven't the slightest idea.  Perhaps, for the sake of
>
> future scholars (few though they may be), the locations of the ms.
>
> should be published somewhere in the journals of ADS.  What do you think
>
> of that suggestion?
>
> Each of us went on to publish other sorts of things in other sorts of
>
> media, but we never returned to the linguistic group after the deaths of
>
> Raven and Dave who were our chief contacts and friends, albeit powerless
>
> in the face of Cassidy's concerns.  Do you by any chance have an e-mail
>
> address for Alan Dundes?  His book is still in print, but I would like
>
> to correct his description of my work.  (I was not a faculty wife!).
>
> For a rather amusing essay detailing who we are, you might consult
>
> Nathan Kantrowitz's
>
> 1990 book, Close Control.
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Joanne Spencer Kantrowitz
>
>
> --
>
> MZ
>
>  >>