Tangerines etc. (was: Quiche Lorraine, etc.)

Jan Ivarsson janivars at BAHNHOF.SE
Mon Jan 22 13:55:39 UTC 2001

According to the Swedish National Encyclopaedia, the oldest of the words is "mandarin" (after the color of the Chinese mandarin's clothing, "mandarin" originally from Sanskrit "mantrin", counsellor, via Portugese "mandarim"), documented in Swedish since 1881. It usually has seeds.
"Tangerin" (after the city of Tanger) is documented as another name for "mandarin" since 1894.
"Clementin" (an almost seedless mandarin) is named after the Père Clément, who around 1900 improved the species.
"Satsuma" is another variant of the same seedless mandarin, named after the Japanese province, documented in Swedish since 1970.
All the variants have in common that they are easily peeled.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynne Murphy" <lynnem at COGS.SUSX.AC.UK>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Tangerines etc. (was: Quiche Lorraine, etc.)

> >>
> >> In my experience as well (and I was just going to write that when I
> >> read this last posting).  I had "clementinos" for the first time in
> >> Israel in 1961 - and they were unheard of when I returned to the
> >> States.  Tangerines were common, however.  Still all clearly in the
> >> same family, but maybe different in the way mandarin oranges are
> >> different from naval oranges are different from Valencia oranges, et
> >> al.?
> Clementines are mandarin oranges. According to AHD4, they're a subtype of
> mandarin orange that's seedless.
> Lynne
> M Lynne Murphy
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