"grandfather" = (baseball) error?

[Gerald Cohen]

   Yes, of course Barry is correct. I had misinterpreted "grandfather"
to be one of three new synonyms for "error", but the author was
merely addressing a typical oldster who was not up on the latest
baseball lingo. Problem solved. Thanx.

---Gerald Cohen

At 1:53 PM -0400 10/13/01, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
>
>(Re "Grandfather"--Probably John Crosby was talking about someone
>who's out of it and doesn't know the slang)

    My original message had been:

>   In his Oct. 12, 2001, message ("John Crosby's Radio and
>Television...) Barry Popik reprints a 1952 NY Herald Tribune article
>on the baseball lingo of sports announcers. At one point the article
>says: "... the particular effulgence...of the sports announcers.
>There is no such thing as an error any more.  It's a miscue,
>grandfather, or at very least a misplay."
>
>     Grandfather? This term does not appear in Paul Dickson's _New
>Baseball Dictionary_, and I never came across it before.  Has anyone
>ever heard "grandfather" as a baseball term for "error"?
>
>---Gerald Cohen