Little Italy north/pizza pie

Paul M. Johnson paulzjoh at MTNHOME.COM
Tue Sep 25 16:46:31 UTC 2001

Grew up in Chicago, and in the '40's and 50's it was called pizza pie,
slowly morphed into pizza and once in a great while "pie"  As in "I'll
have a medium sausage pie"
Laurence Horn wrote:
> At 10:23 AM -0400 9/25/01, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
> >    From the NEW YORK HERALD TRIBUNE, 25 January 1947, pg. 11, col. 7:
> >
> >_Pizzas of Cheese and Sausage_
> >_Baked Brown in Sally's Oven_
> >----------------------------
> >_Golden Stuffed Pies Are_
> >    _Baked to Order in This_
> >    _East Harlem Hideaway_
> >    By Clementine Paddleford
> >    Let's do something different tonight.  And why not?  Don't you
> >get bored with the smart restaurant-type meal, each just like the
> >other?  Heaven knows that we do.  Now is the moment to strike out
> >for Sally's at 2217 First Avenue, between 113th and 114th Streets,
> >location East Harlem, in the heart of Little Italy.  The pizzas
> >you'll love and ditto for Sally, and ditto for Sally's wife, Anna.
> >Quaff the red wine; eat pizza pie.
> Getting us hungry again, Barry.  I was struck by this application of
> "the heart of Little Italy" to a quarter within East Harlem.  For me,
> the only "Little Italy" in New York is and was in lower Manhattan,
> abutting Chinatown, including the Spring Street location mentioned
> later in Barry's post, Mulberry St., etc.  Was "Little Italy" applied
> to both these geographically quite distinct areas back in the 40's?
> Or was it just a cover term for any part of New York inhabited by
> Italians?  It sounds from this context like the former is the case,
> and Paddleford should know, but I still find it strange.
> (I love the nostalgic value of "pizza pie"--was this largely a New
> York designation, or do others remember this as standard mid-century
> (or later) usage elsewhere?)
> larry

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