Donald M Lance
lancedm at MISSOURI.EDU
Thu Jun 27 18:25:54 UTC 2002
on 6/27/02 1:12 PM, Laurence Horn at laurence.horn at YALE.EDU wrote:
> At 10:53 PM -0400 6/26/02, Scott Sadowsky wrote:
>> On 6/26/2002 22:38, Dale Coye wrote the following:
>>> Bible names maintain the schwa-- Solomon, Simeon, Gideon, except for
>>> Lebanon (though Lebanon, NY in Madison Co. again shows schwa for older
>> FWIW, Mt. Lebanon, PA is pronounced ['lEb at nIn] or ['lEb at n@n] by the
>> natives. Anything else marks you as an out-of-towner. The country of
>> Lebanon is pronounced canonically, as ['lEb at nan].
> Two (and a half) questions:
> (1) Are we positive that it's a question of maintaining the schwa in
> these words/names, as opposed to an [a] gradually weakening to a
> (2)a. Is Lebanon, Indiana also pronounced with a schwa (or barred i)
> locally? I don't know if Dale's statement implies that the Indiana
> town always has a full secondary-stressed [a].
I've heard Tennesseans say a schwa for the town in their state. Would the
"-an speakers" maintain the "full vowel" when the name of the state follows
-- "Lebanon, Indiana"?
Or in "Lebanon is a pretty town"? as opposed to "I live in Labanon"?
Same for Oregon, Illinois.
> b. Does anyone know if Americans in Lebanon (the country in the
> Levant), such as the ones at the American university in Beirut
> (either now, if it still exists, or back when it did, before the
> unpleasantness a while back) pronounce the country's name with a
As in this web site -- "Welcome to Banque du Liban"?
> Of course, the questions in (2) can equally be taken as asking
> whether the final syllable in these town names is unstressed locally.
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