Selective messages

Peter A. McGraw pmcgraw at LINFIELD.EDU
Tue May 21 17:57:16 UTC 2002

Sorry to intrude with a technical matter, but this is the latest of several
instances over the past couple of days in which I'm getting a reply via
ads-l that incorporates the text of an original message, but I never got
the original message.

Is anybody else having this experience?  If not, either I'm having a sudden
(and very selective) attack of Alzheimer's, or it's due to something in our
system here and I'll check THAT out.

Peter Mc.

--On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:44 AM -0700 "A. Maberry"
<maberry at U.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:

> My handy "New Cassell's German Dictionary" lists Eis-heiliger as in "die
> drei Eisheiligen, May 11th-13th (Mamertus, Pancratius, Servatius; also
> called die drei gestrengten Herrn"
> I guess "die drei Eisk"onige" might be some local variant.
> allen
> maberry at
> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Mark A Mandel wrote:
>> from a correspondent:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:30:37 +0100
>> By the by, I thought I'd mention an expression my mother used this
>> weekend that I only hear from her at this time of year.
>> She says that her grandmother used to say that you shouldn't plant
>> before May 15, because May 13/14/15 were the Ice Kings. After them,
>> it doesn't frost. (Well, except this year, which is why she was
>> talking about the rule being broken. It frosted last night, even!)
>> Now, my mother says this is an old German thing. A lot of times, that
>> seems to mean it's an "old Germans who live in Dayton" thing, and is
>> long forgotten in Germany. Obviously the climate differences would
>> mean that the Ice Kings would have to be different days in Germany,
>> too.
>> But has anybody else ever heard of this? Googling various keywords on
>> the Web and Usenet produced only hockey references....

                               Peter A. McGraw
                   Linfield College   *   McMinnville, OR
                            pmcgraw at

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