Selective messages

Lynne Murphy lynnem at COGS.SUSX.AC.UK
Tue May 21 18:11:25 UTC 2002

Maybe Peter and I are getting the same kind of senility--I've had the same


--On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:57 am -0700 "Peter A. McGraw"
<pmcgraw at LINFIELD.EDU> wrote:

> Sorry to intrude with a technical matter, but this is the latest of
> several instances over the past couple of days in which I'm getting a
> reply via ads-l that incorporates the text of an original message, but I
> never got the original message.
> Is anybody else having this experience?  If not, either I'm having a
> sudden (and very selective) attack of Alzheimer's, or it's due to
> something in our system here and I'll check THAT out.
> Peter Mc.
> --On Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:44 AM -0700 "A. Maberry"
> <maberry at U.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote:
>> My handy "New Cassell's German Dictionary" lists Eis-heiliger as in "die
>> drei Eisheiligen, May 11th-13th (Mamertus, Pancratius, Servatius; also
>> called die drei gestrengten Herrn"
>> I guess "die drei Eisk"onige" might be some local variant.
>> allen
>> maberry at
>> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Mark A Mandel wrote:
>>> from a correspondent:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:30:37 +0100
>>> By the by, I thought I'd mention an expression my mother used this
>>> weekend that I only hear from her at this time of year.
>>> She says that her grandmother used to say that you shouldn't plant
>>> before May 15, because May 13/14/15 were the Ice Kings. After them,
>>> it doesn't frost. (Well, except this year, which is why she was
>>> talking about the rule being broken. It frosted last night, even!)
>>> Now, my mother says this is an old German thing. A lot of times, that
>>> seems to mean it's an "old Germans who live in Dayton" thing, and is
>>> long forgotten in Germany. Obviously the climate differences would
>>> mean that the Ice Kings would have to be different days in Germany,
>>> too.
>>> But has anybody else ever heard of this? Googling various keywords on
>>> the Web and Usenet produced only hockey references....
> *************************************************************************
> ***                                Peter A. McGraw
>                    Linfield College   *   McMinnville, OR
>                             pmcgraw at

Dr M Lynne Murphy
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