"Upset" & other nomenological phenomena

Kathleen E. Miller millerk at NYTIMES.COM
Tue Nov 19 16:31:23 UTC 2002

At 10:29 AM 11/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>And there has still not been a John II on the English throne. Can anyone
>say for sure if there has been a potential one? That is, an heir
>apparent, or one close enough at birth for the chance to be worth
>considering, named John.

No, none close enough, and it occurs so rarely there are only three direct
descendants I can recall.

  The Plantagenet's give two.

John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3rd son of Edward III and father of Henry IV

John, Duke of Bedford 3rd son of Henry IV (no issue).

[Rumor has it Richard III had an illegitimate son named John].

and the Windsor's had one

Prince John, 4th son of George V, uncle of Queen Elizabeth II (died at age 14).

Kathleen E. Miller
Research Assistant to William Safire
The New York Times

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