Agreement question

Lisa O'Brien lisasmiles123 at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Oct 18 21:31:06 UTC 2002


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>From: Dodi Schultz <SCHULTZ at COMPUSERVE.COM>
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Agreement question
>Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:14:50 -0400
>
>Jesse Sheidlower asks about subject-verb agreement:
>
>   >> The sentence was, "The stories the press tell are shaped not by a
>   >> 'liberal agenda' or a 'right wing conspiracy' but by..." This
>sentence
>   >> was objected to on the grounds that _press_ is singular and thus it
>   >> should read, "The stories the press tells are shaped..."
>   >>
>   >> This objection seems to be correct.
>
>It is.
>
>   >> However, the original, "The stories the press tell are shaped..." is
>   >> _not_ jarring to me... Certainly one would never write, "The stories
>   >> Smith tell are shaped..." ... I'm thinking that it might be the
>   >> influence of the -s ending of _press,_ which, though not a plural
>   >> ending, might suggest plurality enough that "The stories the press
>tell
>   >> are shaped..." doesn't seem obviously wrong.
>   >>
>   >> Any thoughts?
>
>I think you're mentally substituting the word *media*, a plural noun that
>is often used in such constructions rather than "press" and that *would*
>require "tell." The word *media* is--rightly--used these days to refer to
>those disseminating the news, since "press" suggests strictly print.
>(Smarter PR people have long used "news release" rather than "press
>release.")
>
>--DS


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