Non native speaker?

Beverly Flanigan flanigan at OHIOU.EDU
Wed Oct 23 21:59:29 UTC 2002

What do you mean by "the latter"?  AAVE is the general usage now, but
there's nothing wrong with Black English or Ebonics either.  We're not into
PCness.  Personally, I favor BEV, for obvious reasons.

At 01:23 PM 10/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>The debate about the identity  of the sniper is being debated currently on the
>Forensic Linguistics listserv.  There's quite an argument about whether the
>person is native or non-native.  I'd have to agree with you and say native.  I
>agree with your comments about the phrasing of the statement about our
>children being in danger.  It is stylistically well formed.  I also think it's
>easy, intentionally or not, to sound garbled, illiterate and/or non-native.
>Isn't the sound subsitution regular in Black English/Ebonics/African American
>English?  What's PC in linguistics for that these days?  Certainly not the
>Duane Campbell wrote:
> > According to published reports, the notes left by the sniper are in an
> > imperfect English indicating perhaps a non-native speaker. Yet the one
> > sentence they have released -- "Your children are not safe at any time or
> > in any place." (from memory) -- strikes me as a very well crafted
> > sentence. Not just lucid and free from error, but stylish.
> >
> > Any forensic linguists on the list? Is there such a thing as a forensic
> > linguist?
> >
> > While I'm asking questions, Chief Moose (who is, incidentally, Dr. Moose)
> > replaces all of his "th" sounds with either a hard "D" (initial) or "F".
> > I have heard this from time to time, though usually not so pronounced,
> > including a classmate in 1950s rural Pennsylvania with a 100 percent
> > white school population. I had always assumed it was a minor speech
> > impediment (is there a new PC word for this?) or an ideomorph. Are there
> > dialects that include this shift?
> >
> > D

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