/zh/ replacing /dzh/?

Dennis R. Preston preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU
Wed Sep 25 22:59:48 UTC 2002

Nope, that's no true at all. "Hick" is a derogatory term which some
non-hicks use to express their smug self-knowledge that people from
some parts of the country are uneducated and stupid by virture of
theor geographical provenience. Guess that tells you who the
dum-asses really are.


I don't think that the way a peson pronounces words necessarily makes
them a hick.  "Hick" is a derrogatory term that refers to people that
are uneducated and stupid.  I am from southeastern  Kentucky and I
assure you there are both intelligent and not so intelligent people
there, just as there are everywhere.  I think that the fact that we
all pronounce things different should not make anyone feel inferior--
since those of us on this mailing claim to be educated people, I
think we should realize that diversity is a good thing.  I like my
accent, it is a part of who I am, the way I say a character out of
the bible shouldn't determine my inetelligence or anything else about
me for that matter.  I assure you that the people whose names appear
in the bible aren't going to come back to haunt is if we don't
pronounce their name correctly.
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society
>Subject: Re: /zh/ replacing /dzh/?
>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:14:20 -0400
>You'd better call them hicks Hoosiers. Fritz must be from one of
>places that ain't got no hicks.
>>Well, of course, the right way to say Elijah has neither /zh/ nor
>Well, what is the 'right' way?
>>but I don't think I've ever heard a non-affricated English
>>pronunciation. Garage with /dzh/ strikes me as a Britishism
>GaraZH has always sounded like some affectation. I can see
>pronouncing 'liege' with ZH; maybe the speaker is trying to sound
>more French. The Normans had lieges and so on. So, with respect to
>those old social classes... However, the garage hardly seems to be
>the place to be puttin' on airs. When I hear some hick from Indiana
>say 'garazh' I snicker.
>BTW, no one (at least that I have seen) has mentioned the Taj Mahal.
>TaJ or TaZH?
>Fritz Juengling
>Dennis R. Preston
>Professor of Linguistics
>Department of Linguistics and Languages
>740 Wells Hall A
>Michigan State University
>East Lansing, MI 48824-1027 USA
>Office - (517) 353-0740
>Fax - (517) 432-2736

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