/zh/ replacing /dzh/?

Mandy Adkins mnadki01 at MOREHEAD-ST.EDU
Thu Sep 26 02:38:14 UTC 2002


GO DENNIS!!!!!

Quoting "Dennis R. Preston" <preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU>:

> Nope, that's no true at all. "Hick" is a derogatory term which some
> non-hicks use to express their smug self-knowledge that people from
> some parts of the country are uneducated and stupid by virture of
> theor geographical provenience. Guess that tells you who the
> dum-asses really are.
>
> dInIs
>
>
> I don't think that the way a peson pronounces words necessarily makes
> them a hick.  "Hick" is a derrogatory term that refers to people that
> are uneducated and stupid.  I am from southeastern  Kentucky and I
> assure you there are both intelligent and not so intelligent people
> there, just as there are everywhere.  I think that the fact that we
> all pronounce things different should not make anyone feel inferior--
> since those of us on this mailing claim to be educated people, I
> think we should realize that diversity is a good thing.  I like my
> accent, it is a part of who I am, the way I say a character out of
> the bible shouldn't determine my inetelligence or anything else about
> me for that matter.  I assure you that the people whose names appear
> in the bible aren't going to come back to haunt is if we don't
> pronounce their name correctly.
> >Reply-To: American Dialect Society
> >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: /zh/ replacing /dzh/?
> >Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:14:20 -0400
> >
> >You'd better call them hicks Hoosiers. Fritz must be from one of
> >them
> >places that ain't got no hicks.
> >
> >dInIs
> >
> >>Well, of course, the right way to say Elijah has neither /zh/ nor
> >>/dzh/...
> >
> >Well, what is the 'right' way?
> >
> >>but I don't think I've ever heard a non-affricated English
> >>pronunciation. Garage with /dzh/ strikes me as a Britishism
> >>("Britishcism?).
> >
> >GaraZH has always sounded like some affectation. I can see
> >pronouncing 'liege' with ZH; maybe the speaker is trying to sound
> >more French. The Normans had lieges and so on. So, with respect to
> >those old social classes... However, the garage hardly seems to be
> >the place to be puttin' on airs. When I hear some hick from Indiana
> >say 'garazh' I snicker.
> >BTW, no one (at least that I have seen) has mentioned the Taj Mahal.
> >TaJ or TaZH?
> >Fritz Juengling
> >--
> >
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> Department of Linguistics and Languages
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