"at" at the end of a where phrase

[Patti Kurtz]

flanigan at OHIO.EDU wrote:

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>I couldn't (and didn't) say it better myself, Patti!  Ah, a new breed of
>English teachers, and coming out of my beloved Northland!
>

Thanks, Beverly.  :-)
 (so where are you from?  I'm a transplant myself, but love it here!)

Oh, and the info on the Wolfram/Schilling-Estes book:  Blackwell
publishers, 1998, for anyone interested.  It is  a very good text on
variations in American English.

Patti Kurtz

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>At 11:42 AM 12/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
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>>write at SCN.ORG wrote:
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>>>I teach 8th grade.  This thread makes me feel as if I should never correct
>>>my students writing.
>>>
>>>
>>Okay, I'm not a linguist per se, but an English prof, but my feelings
>>are that a9 it's okay to show students what's expected in "Standard
>>written English" as long as we don't disparage their own dialects in the
>>process.  Students can learn to style shift very readily-- the problem,
>>I think, that Dennis and the others are focusing on is the view that one
>>dialect (the mythical standard) is somehow "better" than the others.
>>Plus speech and writing are very different-- we speak (as a rule) much
>>more informally than we write.  And a lot of writing has to do with
>>audience.  What are the students writing to who? (or should that be
>>whom?)  Anyhow, I think as a teacher, it's important to teach the
>>conventions of written standard English, but to do so in a  way that
>>doesn't make students ashamed of the way they talk.  Students should
>>also realize that there may be a time or place in writing for dialect
>>and casual usage-- such as e mails, letters to friends, fiction, etc.
>>The key I think is in not labeling variants as "bad English" but as
>>variants which may not be accepted by the academic community.
>>
>>Okay, that's  my 2 cents.
>>
>>Patti Kurtz
>>English Department
>>Minot State University
>>Minot, ND
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>>>No doubt, I will think something is wrong that
>>>really isn't, or is so common that I should just ignore it.  Where is
>>>there help for teachers who were never trained about language themselves?
>>>Jan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>
>>If  you write nothing, nothing is what you end up with!
>>
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>>
>>Joseph Bruchac
>>
>>

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If  you write nothing, nothing is what you end up with!



Joseph Bruchac