Ron Butters' offer to publish some of Barry's material

Gerald Cohen gcohen at UMR.EDU
Tue Mar 11 03:47:29 UTC 2003


   I'll give some thought to this and look for Barry's input of
course. A thorough treatment of "hot dog" would probably take a
volume in itself, but for the sake of your proposed book could appear
in abbreviated form. In any case, any book which compiles some of
Barry's extraordinary research should be a worthwhile endeavor.

Gerald Cohen

>Date:         Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:12:13 EST
>From: RonButters at AOL.COM
>Subject:      Re:       Re: "Windy City" wrong in NY TIMES BOOK REVIEW(3-9-03)
>I agree. It could be a great PADS volume. I would LOVE to be Barry's editor
>for a book like that (I AM SERIOUS). If Barry doesn't have time to pull it
>together himself, how about if someone like Jerry collaborate with him?
>(Please, though, not TOO much about the myths of cheese names!)
>In a message dated 3/10/03 7:50:51 PM, laurence.horn at YALE.EDU writes:
>>  At 6:45 PM -0500 3/10/03, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
>>  >    Could someone write on my behalf to the NEW YORK TIMES?  The NEW
>>  >YORK SUN?  How many years must this go on?  My work was/is in the
>>  >WALL STREET JOURNAL, the Straight Dope web site, World Wide Words
>>  >web site, the Weather Doctor's web site, and the USA TODAY weather
>>  >guy's web site.  And, especially, here on the American Dialect
>>  >Society site.  MUST THIS HAPPEN EVERY DAY????
>>  It does seem to happen every day, to Barry and in a sense to all of
>>  us.  If Barry weren't so diligent about turning up these cites, it
>>  would be less painful, I'm sure.  But there must have been almost as
>>  many references to the umpteen words for snow in Eskimo before Geoff
>>  Pullum published his book _The Great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax, and
>>  other irreverent essays on the study of language_ (U. of Chicago
>>  Press, 1991).  I'm not sure the appearance of the book has made a
>>  sizable dent in the citation practice, but at least when it happens
>>  now there's a place to refer culprits to for enlightenment.  (I just
>>  did so to our Unitarian minister, and she seems pleased to have been
>>  set straight on the subject.)  A book (perhaps with apposite
>>  illustrations) including the "Windy City" and "hot dog" follies and
>>  countless others, presented as a case of linguistic detective work,
>>  might be just the thing.  At least when a solid demonstration is
>>  offered in book form published by a major house, it's nothing to be
>>  sneezed at.  And consider, as another parallel, the wonderful and
>>  very well received recent compilation _Language Myths_, edited by
>>  Laurie Bauer and Peter Trudgill (Penguin, 1998).  So how about a book
>>  on false attributions--Barry?  Jerry?  anyone?
>>  larry

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