Another "$100 Misunderstanding" (1)

Wilson Gray hwgray at EARTHLINK.NET
Sat Aug 14 01:55:08 UTC 2004


On Aug 13, 2004, at 7:32 PM, Dennis R. Preston wrote:

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> -e- as in 'get'? I'm sure the standard pronunciation (mine) is /gIt/.
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> dInIs

Okay, Dee. You got me. Yuda man.

-Wilson

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>> On Aug 13, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Gordon, Matthew J. wrote:
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>>> I took the unusual thing in this form (IN veh lup) to be the schwa
>>> in =
>>> the final syllable.
>>> Is that what Wilson's pointing out?
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>> Yes, that and the clear -e- as in "get" in the middle syllable. It's
>> as
>> though my stepfather simply derived the noun from the verb by shifting
>> the stress leftward in the ordinary way, instead of using a whole
>> other
>> lexical item, as I do.
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>> -Wilson
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>>> Subject:      Re: Another "$100 Misunderstanding" (1)
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>>>>>> is clearly the preferred - by me, any way - pronunciation.;-)
>>>>>> BTW, =
>>> my
>>>>>> late stepfather, a native of Saint louis, though of Arkansas =
>>> ancestry,
>>>>>> made this odd distinction in his speech: noun =3D "IN veh lup";
>>>>>> verb =
>>> =3D
>>>>>> "in VEH lup."
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>>> I cannot tell from your spelling what vowels you are indicating, so
>>> am =
>>> not
>>> referring to those - but the
>>> stress pattern you indicate is the one that I have always used -
>>> with =
>>> initial
>>> syllable stress for the noun,
>>> and medial syllable stress for the verb. That's why I asked, "Is
>>> joke?"
>>>
>>> Bethany
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