Hallucinating distinctions (was New Jersey Dialects)

FRITZ JUENGLING juengling_fritz at SALKEIZ.K12.OR.US
Thu Oct 21 14:45:24 UTC 2004


Davenport was the word that we all used in the late 60s/early 70s in Portland, OR.  Maybe the name of our hometown kept davenport alive longer :)
Fritz
>>> nee1 at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU 10/20/04 01:24PM >>>
I associate davenport with a Peanuts cartoon from the 50s. Lucy
claims to have shot someone behind the davenport "and if that's not
fatal I don't know what is!" It is a term that I know and I know the
referent for, but it seems alien to me: childhood Cleveland 1960s.

Barbara

>My students in Ohio did a field project and found "davenport," at least
>in their sample (which admittedly was small), to very age graded (sorry,
>Wilson!)  That is, mainly people over about 50 used it at all.  I
>suspect the same is true here, though I don't think my students have
>done that project here yet.
>
>And I also believe it was a brand name first.
>
>FWIW my grandmother used it all the time-- she was in her 60's at the
>time, in the 1960's in western PA
>
>But for me, it's a couch (with the appropriate Pittsburgh twang of
>course : )
>
>Patti Kurtz
>
>wilson.gray at RCN.COM wrote:
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>>Poster:       Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM>
>>Subject:      Re: Hallucinating distinctions (was New Jersey Dialects)
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>>dInIs, I'm way disappointed in you, the way you're letting these
>>Northerners define the field of discussion. Uh-oh. I may be pulling a
>>PITS, not realizing that some item that I (formerly) used routinely is,
>>in fact, a localism. In any case, I'm referring to the use of
>>"davenport" in preference to either "couch" or "sofa." "Davenport" was
>>the only term used in East Texas in my childhood, though locals
>>understood both "sofa" and "couch." If I remember rightly, "davenport,"
>>like "frigidaire," was originally a brand name. In this case, it was
>>the brand name of a sofa or couch that could be pulled out into a bed.
>>Currently, my conscious mind prefers "couch." but my fingers appear to
>>like "sofa" better.
>>
>>-Wilson Gray
>>
>>
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>Dr. Patti J. Kurtz
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>Assistant Professor, English
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>Director of the Writing Center
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>Minot State University
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>Straker: Evidence. What's it going to look like when Henderson claims
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