the meaning of ''developed from''

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Mon Apr 25 21:30:31 UTC 2005

My conjecture is that "Go frig yourself" was originally non-euphemistic.


Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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At 11:05 AM -0700 4/25/05, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>My impression is that it's been a long time since "frig" was little
>known and narrowly distributed.

True, but note the existence of both the masturbatory and the
euphemistic senses of the term.


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>In a message dated 4/25/05 12:02:40 PM, wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM writes:
>> The existence or nonexistence of "go frig " is irrelevant here.=A0
>>As for=20=
>> masturbatory sense of "frig," I recommend a look at HDAS.
>I did, and it confirmed my intuition that FUCK is much more widely known tha=
>FRIG in any sense, whether masturbatory, trifling, or as a euphemism for=20
>FUCK. It does not seem "logical" at all that a well-known and widespread ins=
>ult as=20
>(GO) FUCK YOU(RSELF) would have "developed from" one that is, at best,=20
>little-known, narrowlly distirbuted historically and culturally, and in itse=
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>known as a euphemism for the very form it has supposedly evolved into.
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