wush (was Re: "Sock It to Me")

[Jonathan Lighter]

Better than the running "AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!"  I usually get.

JL

Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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On Jun 28, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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> It ain't necessarily so that "wuz" is meaningless eye-dialect. While
> most people I know say
> / wVz / anyway, in East Tennessee I have also heard a very distinct /
> waz /. A roommate used to say it, so I had plenty of time to observe
> and take notes.
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> So if you're a / waz / sayer, we / wVz / sayers are the oddballs,
> and would be represented as saying "wuz."
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> Confusion obtains, however, when my "wuz" is written as "wuz" to
> represent "wuz" / wUz /.
>
> Amyone wishing to write a monograph on the situation is welcome to use
> the title, " 'Wuz' : Is it is or is it Ain't ?"
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> JL

Thank you, Jon! You deserve a standing "O."

-Wilson

> "Dennis R. Preston"
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> First, these are not eye-dialect examples in the strict sense; they
> are respellings which try to represent an actual pronunciation
> difference (not such eye-dialect only stuff as "sez" and "wuz"
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> The vowel we are after here is perhaps closer to "push" than "lush,"
> but it is a central vowel, at IPA barred i.
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> dInIs
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>> MW3 shows the variant pronunciation /wUS/ for "wish".
>>
>> In those 'eye-dialect' examples of "wush" is the pronunciation /wUS/
>> (rhymes with "push") or is it /wVS/ (rhymes with "lush") or is it some
>> mixture of these? Do we know for sure? Is /wU/ an expected variant of
>> /wV/,
>> or vice-versa, or not?
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>> "Wush" is one conventional Scots spelling of "wiss" (= "wish"). SND
>> on-line
>> gives several examples from 19th and 20th century Scots. My little
>> "Concise
>> Scots Dictionary" seems to indicate a pronunciation /wVS/ (along with
>> /wIs/, /wIS/, /wVs/).
>>
>> -- Doug Wilson
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