Brooklynese in N.O.

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Sep 17 04:14:41 UTC 2005


I'm with Bethany. Chicks have been "guys" since the '60's, at least in
California.

-Wilson

On 9/16/05, Peter A. McGraw <pmcgraw at linfield.edu> wrote:
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> A couple of years ago I read a letter to the editor of The Oregonian
> (Portland) headed "Women are not guys."  I don't remember it being
> impassioned, and I don't remember the precise argument, but the writer was
> a woman and her premise was at least mildly feminist.
>
> Peter Mc.
>
> --On Friday, September 16, 2005 10:33 AM -0700 Jonathan Lighter
> <wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
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> > Bethany, I've read an *impassioned* _cri de coeur_ by Douglas Hofstatder
> > (in his _Le Ton Beau de Marot_ ) denouncing the use of "guy(s)," by
> > anyone, to refer to females, ever,  as patriarchal sexist ideology at its
> > unrestrained worst.
> >
> > Loony, but impassioned.
> >
> > JL
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb at UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU> wrote:
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> > On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Mark A. Mandel wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting. Conversely, I use "gal" as a counterpart to "guy":
> >> colloquial = 'woman' with no judgment attached. (But this is idiolect,
> >> not dialect: a deliberate choice to fill a lexical gap.)
> >
> > To me, we're all guys.
> >
> > Bethany
> >
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> Peter A. McGraw       Linfield College        McMinnville, Oregon
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-Wilson Gray



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