case choice by rhyme

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Fri Sep 23 15:25:48 UTC 2005


Yes, I would say "as they belied" (or rather, "go with"; the passage
is not something that would come trippingly off my tongue.  "As them
belied" grates on my grammatical ears (but I am certainly not a
professional grammarian).

Joel

At 9/23/2005 10:55 AM, you wrote:
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>         So, to use my other example, you would go with
>
>Other poets say their mistresses' eyes are like the sun.  I think my
>love as rare as they belied with false compare.
>
>rather than
>
>Other poets say their mistresses' eyes are like the sun.  I think my
>love as rare as them belied with false compare.
>
>
>         Is that correct?
>
>
>John Baker
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>At 9/22/2005 11:27 AM, you wrote:
> >         Actually, I don't think "she" is the object of "belied" at
>all.
> >"She" is the object of the preposition "as."  "Belied" is a participle
> >modifying "she."
>
>I thought Larry had the right explanation, that it is a case of "is".
>(Why am I reminded of Bill?)  That is, more completely and less
>poetically it would be "As any she [who is] belied with false compare."
>In that case, isn't "as" a conjunction, not a preposition?  And
>"belied", while a participle, being used as a verb, not as a noun?
>
>Joel



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