FAQ (was Re: TIPS)

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sat Jul 8 00:28:51 UTC 2006

At 4:20 PM -0400 7/7/06, Wilson Gray wrote:
>Geoff Nathan's from T'ronna. In fact, he's the person who disabused me
>of the impression that the name of the city is "TuhRONtoe." Maybe
>he'll see this and let us know.

Wilson, Geoff et/vel al.,

Can you or anyone on the list confirm (or disconfirm) that
Torontonians do call it "T'ronna" (or /'trAn@/, with A variously =
back unrounded /a/ or open-o)?  That's what I said once, and I was
corrected by someone who seemed to know (or to think he did) and who
claimed it was (more like) T'ronno, with final /o/ unstressed but
unreduced schwaward.  I'd be curious to know, since I use the example
in an inventory of least-effort reductions in local place names
(something we've discussed at length on various occasions--Clumps,
'Sconsin, Newpert News,...).


>On 7/7/06, Chris Waigl <chris at lascribe.net> wrote:
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>>Subject:      Re: FAQ (was Re: TIPS)
>>Jesse Sheidlower <jester at PANIX.COM>:
>>>  On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 06:34:38PM +0100, Chris Waigl wrote:
>>>>  whose boss says "sequel" for SQL
>>>  Hate. That.
>>>  What makes it worse is that several people I know who are really
>>>  great programmers say it this way. Drives me crazy.
>>(Me, too. And he's a nice guy otherwise. I've been attributing it to his
>>Toronto dialect. -- I'm not actually sure this _is_ his dialect, but his
>>English is very distinctive, unlike any I've heard before, and he's _in_
>>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
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