Vals Kilmer (like "attorneys general"?)

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Tue Mar 28 00:06:03 UTC 2006


That's may be true, but at least they should realize it's an admiral's unform, not a general's. Of course, the SG isn't an ordinary admiral either - or any kind of naval officer - just chief of the United States Public Health Service.  The uniforms were long passe', but Everett Koop brought them back in 1981.

  http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_194b.html

  JL



Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OHIO.EDU> wrote:
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Some talk show (or news hour) hosts have used "General," perhaps naively,
I'll admit. Also, haven't some of the SGs been in uniform during their
tenure? This might lead people to believe they should be called "General."

At 03:54 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
>"To my knowledge, no one ever calls the Surgeon General 'General.'
>'Doctor' is used instead."
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> Read all about it: http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/spring2003/generals/ .
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> JL
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>The Surgeon General is always addressed as General.
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>At 01:34 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
> >I think the question was about how attorneys general are addressed. When
> >Alberto Gonzales appears before congress, is he addressed as General
> >Gonzales? I think this happens at least sometimes.
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> >-Matt Gordon
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> >On 3/27/06 11:43 AM, "Dennis R. Preston"
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> > > I guess I don't understand. If he is the attorney for general
> > > matters, then he is a "general attorney," just like a court martial
> > > is court (N) plus martial (adj) a "military court."
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> > > dInIs
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> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> I've no beef with adjectives following nouns, a la francais. This still
> > >> doesn't explain why we address this (general interest) attorney as
> > >> "General" if it isn't meant as a rank.....?
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