MILF (was Re: change from the bottom up)

Scot LaFaive spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Apr 30 20:41:41 UTC 2007


>BTW, has "motherfucker," while i was sleeping, become the integral part of
>white speeech that it is of black speech.

I would think so. I've never thought of "motherfucker" as anything but
native. Not sure what you mean by "integral."

Scot LaFaive


>From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
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>Subject: Re: MILF (was Re: change from the bottom up)
>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:30:44 -0400
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>Well, she was known as "Stifler's Mom." BTW, has "motherfucker," while
>i was sleeping, become the integral part of white speeech that it is
>of black speech, such that it would serve as the basis for new slang?
>
>-Wilson
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>On 4/30/07, Baker, John <JMB at stradley.com> wrote:
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> >         American Pie, the 1999 movie that brought "milf" to a broad
> > audience, used "mom," but most of the pre-American Pie cites on Google
> > Groups use "mother."
> >
> >
> > John Baker
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf
> > Of James Harbeck
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:15 PM
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> > Subject: Re: MILF (was Re: change from the bottom up)
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> > >For me, I think I've heard MILF spoken out almost exclusively as "mom"
> > >not "mother."
> >
> > I find this interesting. It's not my experience -- rather the opposite.
> > And I had always assumed that it was a phrase modelled on the venerable
> > "motherfucker."
> >
> > A Google poll gets me 32,500 for full-phrase "mother i'd like to fuck"
> > and 11,700 for "mom i'd like to fuck"; {"mom i'd like to" MILF} gets
> > 13,800, and {"mother i'd like to" MILF} gets 32,700, meaning that there
> > are more instances where the vulgarity is left out of the explanation
> > that use "mom" than that use "mother", but otherwise "mother" is roughly
> > triple "mom".
> >
> > James Harbeck.
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