/t/ for /d/ for word endings

Beverly Flanigan flanigan at OHIO.EDU
Wed Aug 15 18:44:19 UTC 2007


You mean Ben's email, don't you?  He raises the third environment at issue
here, as in "wanted," "waited," "raided," etc.  But let's let Tom figure
out the rules--or maybe he'll look in his fave Ladefoged or one of the many
other books we've recommended on this list.

At 01:30 PM 8/15/2007, you wrote:
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>Poster:       Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject:      Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
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>Oh, sorry, I didn't see the end of Tom's email about voiced segments and
>[-ed]. Never mind. :)
>
>Scot
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> >From: Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM>
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> >Subject: Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
> >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:25:32 -0500
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> >Subject:      Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
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> >I'm confused. There's [-ed] in "flipped," "pissed," and "clinched?" I hear
> >[t].
> >
> >Scot
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> >
> > >From: Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> > >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:11:02 -0700
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> > >Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > >Subject:      Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
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> > >No. There's the -ed sound as well. I'll leave it to you as a phonetic
> > >exercise to figure out the environment. BB
> > >
> > >Tom Zurinskas wrote:
> > > > Someone said the below.  Is this standard American pronunciation?
> > > >
> > > > /t/ is voiceless and /d/ is voiced.  In standard American
> >pronunciation,
> > > > verbs
> > > > that end with a voiceless sound (/f/k/p/s/sh/ch/) add /t/ for their
> >-ed
> > > > ending.
> > > > Verbs that end with a voiced sound add /d/ for their -ed ending.
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