/w/-/hw/ again

Dennis R. Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Fri Dec 28 19:24:11 UTC 2007


But lots of C = /k/ + w before [o].

A gob of [sword] pronouncers out there by the way.

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>Probably not. [Cw] generally > [C] / __ [o] (possibly [+round], but I
>don't have my references handy to confirm this).
>
>So in addition to the whole and whore offered by Charles Doyle, we
>have <sword> pronounced [sord].
>
>Barbara
>
>On 28 Dec 2007, at 12:52, Dennis R. Preston wrote:
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>>  Yes; but not my sense of "ever"; I meant is there
>>  any attested modern survival of a /hw/ in "who"
>>  (as there obviosuly are in my own mouth for what,
>>  where, why,metc..., but not who.)
>>
>>  dInIs
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>>>  Poster:       Barbara Need <nee1 at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
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>>>  Yes. In Old English (hwa)!
>>>
>>>  Barbara
>>>
>>>  Barbara Need
>>>  UChicago
>>>
>>>  On 27 Dec 2007, at 16:27, Dennis Preston wrote:
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>>>>   Has there ever been a pronunciation of "who" with /hw/?
>>>>
>>>>   dInIs
>>>>
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>>>>>   Subject:      /w/-/hw/ again
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>>>>>
>>>>>    From a recent column about a legendary Boston politician:
>>>>>
>>>>>   <FreddieÃs greatest moment came during his Parkman House hearings,
>>>>>   when
>>>>>   he exposed Mayor WhiteÃs profligate spending at his palatial home
>>>>>   away
>>>>>   from home.
>>>>>   ¦Who ate at the Parkman House?" Freddie thundered, his unlit cigar
>>>>>   clenched in his teeth. ¦H-W-O-H - who?">
>>>>>
>>>>>   http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view.bg?
>>>>>   articleid=1062332
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Michigan State University
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