Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Sun Dec 30 22:18:05 UTC 2007

I agree.  I'd say your ideolect is standard American English for the words you've cited.  What is the history of pronunciation of these words.

The problem is that some folks are repressing the sound "awe" and replacing it with "ah" wherever it exists.  They just do not want to say that sound.

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> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:21:48 -0500
> From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
> Subject: Re: "Blawg"
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> Poster: Laurence Horn
> Subject: Re: "Blawg"
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> At 10:04 AM -0500 12/30/07, Dennis Preston wrote:
>>us open-o /a/ distinguishers have a very uneven assignment of the
>>phonemes to different words, especially before /g/. In my case,
>>which I bet is not very different from David's, my earliest learned o
>>+ /g/ words are all open-o (hog, frog, log, dog, etc...); my later
>>learned words (cog, togs, etc...) are either /a/ or variable (e.g.,
>>smog). I think I would assign /a/ to "blog," although I ain't much
>>for introspection in such matters.
> We effete easterners (or me, anyway) also distinguish two
> collections, and frequency/early acquisition are relevant variables
> for us too, but playing out in a rather imbalanced way. I have /dOg/
> with open-o and...that's it. The other -ogs all have /a/. So not
> only doesn't "blog" rhyme with "dog", but nothing else does either!?
> Did I realize this?
> Actually there might be local Indian names in New England whose last
> syllable end in things like -paug that would rhyme with "dog". Or if
> I were pronouncing PAUG [the acronym for the Portland Access Users
> Group, the Professional Auto-CAD Users Group, or the Philadelphia
> Auto-CAD Users Group] or PAWG [Pissed Americans With Guns] that would
> as well. For -og words, though, "dog" stands alone, it appears.
> Anyone else share this weird idiolect? Have we already discussed
> this?
> LH
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>>>Subject: Re: "Blawg"
>>>From: Wilson Gray
>>>> How will "dawg"-sayin' folk distinguish "blawg" from "blog" in speech?
>>>> By contex', I reckon.
>>>Actually, my cot-caught-distinguishin' self pronounces blog with an
>>>open-o, probably out of analogy with log, which has an open-o for me.
>>>(Hence my weakly-joked wonderment at why it was spelled blawg, not blog
>>>in my earlier post. I realized right after i sent it that that was a
>>>pretty opaque comment.)
>>>David Bowie University of Central Florida
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>>Dennis R. Preston
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>>Department of English
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>>Michigan State University
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