/w/-/hw/ again

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Dec 31 04:03:09 UTC 2007


Quite so, dInIs, WRT my eye-dialect. I'm mildly surprised by your
"Ima." This form is relatively new to me. I.e. I say "Imoang"  (if the
following segment is not a velar, then /N/ drops and the nasalized /o/
is left behind), but my generation-younger half-brothers say only
"Ima" for "I'm going to."

On Dec 28, 2007 7:00 PM, Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu> wrote:
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> Actually my casual speech pronunciation of this is just /amoh~/
> (where /oh/ equals open-o and ~ indicates nasalization of the
> preceding vowel). That's all there is to my (and many others like me)
> "I'm going to." The "initial  /m/" is from the prediuctable
> syllabification of the string. The /g/ in Wilson's representation
> does not come from 'I'm going to' but from the subsequent 'git.' If
> it was, for example, "I'm going to see" (not git), there would be no
> /g/.
>
> In my even faster speech representation, the nasalization disappears
> altogether and gives something that sounds like the name "Ima."
>
> dInIs
>
> PS: Please don't write relating this to Ima Hogg and her putative
> sister Ura. No connection.
>
>
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> >"I moang..." got my attention. I hear it in my mind as matching a usage I
> >think I hear very often, which I always have equated to "I'm going to" --
> >here, with the nasal maybe assimilating in place to the /g/ of "git". Am I
> >understanding it right? Whence the initial /m/?   From  "I'm (a-)going
> >to..."?
> >
> >m a m
> >
> >On Dec 28, 2007 5:09 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  A blues verse:
> >>
> >>  I moang git me a blade
> >>  One thet I kin affode
> >>  Too lawng t' be ey knife
> >>  Too shawt t' be ey swode
> >>
> >>
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