"phthonic," "phthonos"

barbara hawkins lumeria99 at YAHOO.COM
Fri Feb 9 01:39:20 UTC 2007


_Phthonos_ is still widely used in Modern (rather, Contemporary) Greek, meaning 'overpowering resentment or resentment with the potential to harm.'


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  Barbara Hawkins

Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
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Not in OED.

_Phthonic_ (Of humor, laughter, etc.) founded on or characterized by cruelty or malice.
_Phthonos_ Cruelty or malice in or as the basis of a kind of humor.

1987 Ronald de Sousa _The Rationality of Emotion_ (MIT Press) 275 : A certain kind of mirth, which I call _phthonic_ from a Greek word meaning "malicious envy," allows scope for wrongness in at least two different ways. Phthonic mirth need have no component of wit.

_Ibid._ 289: Phthonic laughter...is particularly susceptible to moral condemnation....I borrow from Plato the word _phthonos_, which means something like "malicious envy" (_Philebus_, 47e).

Ibid. 290: But how is the distinction between phthonos and wit to be drawn?...A rape joke will do: M. visits the hockey team. When she emerges she complainsd that she has been gang-raped. Wishful thinking....The phthonic element in a joke requires endorsement....The phthonic makes us laugh only insofar as the assumptions on which it is based are attitudes actually shared.

_Ibid. 294: I speculate that each is an essential element, linked with the evocation of some frightening evil, of true phthonic laughter.

JL


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