Weiner or Hamburger Schnitzel (1868)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jul 7 19:04:28 UTC 2007


Is "Holsteiner Schnitzel," as opposed to "Schnitzel Holsteiner Art,"
now the usual term in Germany? I have to keep reminding myself that
most of what I (think I) know about dialect and slang dates from a
half-century or more ago.

-Wilson

On 7/4/07, Chris F Waigl <chris at lascribe.net> wrote:
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> Wilson Gray wrote:
> > According to Wikipedia, as cited by Barry, the Schnitzel Holsteiner
> > Art is breaded, whereas the Hamburger schnitzel is not. "Breaded"
> > corresponds to the Holsteiner schnitzel as I've experienced it both in
> > Germany and in the States. I'm not familiar with the Hamburger
> > schnitzel.
> >
> >
>
> [Is the misspelling "Weiner" for "Wiener" that old?]
>
> In my version of German:
>
> - Schnitzel: veal or pork, no bone, always breaded EXCEPT if it's one of
> the subtypes that comes with a sauce (Jägerschnitzel, Zigeunerschnitzel
> [sic]). Chicken needs extra declaration ("Hühnerschnitzel"), just like
> vegetarian varieties.
> - Kotelett: veal or porc, with bone, can be breaded or not
> - Steak: unbreaded; beef, veal, pork (or horse...), if it's not a Kotelett.
>
> According to Wikipedia, Holsteiner Schnitzel derives its name from a
> person, not the region (to which the English Wikipedia links the name).
> Hamburger Schnitzel is unknown to me and to the German Wikipedia.
>
> Chris Waigl
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