crapper 1910...and more

[Laurence Horn]

At 4:55 AM -0700 7/18/07, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>My wife (fellow New Yorker that she is) says "Holloween." I don't.
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>   JL

I (fellow New Yorker) do.  Actually, I think I say either version at
random.  But I definitely pronounce the apostrophe.

LH

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>Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>Thanks for the "-e'en"! In those days, the hypercorrection of
>"Hallow-" to "Hollow-" hadn't really caught on. It was still possible
>to correct people without their taking offense.
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>-Wilson
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>On 7/17/07, sagehen wrote:
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>>  >FWIW (I didn't forget the "W", this time!), in the Saint Louis of my
>>  >childhood and youth, at least, ca.1940-1960, "croppie," "tossel," and
>>  >"liloc" instead of "crappie," "tassel," and "lilac," plus others that
>>  >may come to mind later, were the usual pronunciations.
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>>  >-Wilson
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>>  How about Hallowe'en/Hollowe'en?
>>  A
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