"until" vs "before" or "to"

Beverly Flanigan flanigan at OHIO.EDU
Thu Jul 19 18:52:37 UTC 2007


Perhaps he heard "till" in California, thought it was the current American
usage (which it increasingly is), and, as we suggested earlier, assumed it
was an abbreviation of "until"--hence the (mis)spelling.  Too bad, because
it IS cool.

At 11:48 PM 7/18/2007, you wrote:
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>Poster:       James Harbeck <jharbeck at SYMPATICO.CA>
>Subject:      Re: "until" vs "before" or "to"
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>Just to add a smidge of data, I have a rather cool Frank Gehry watch
>(see
>http://www.fossil.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=18233&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=961&iSubCat=981&iProductID=18233)
>that gives the time as, e.g., "8 past 10" or "17 til 11" (right now
>it says "14 til midnight"). It presents it in an emulation of Gehry's
>handwriting. So it seems that Frank Gehry uses "til." However, though
>he's originally from Toronto (moved to California at 18), I'm not
>used to hearing "til" here at all -- "to" is the current local word.
>(I learned to use "of" when I lived in Boston and stopped just as
>readily when I moced back to Canada.)
>
>James Harbeck.
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