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Beverly Flanigan flanigan at OHIO.EDU
Thu Jul 19 20:15:16 UTC 2007


St. Louis ain't South Midland!  If you ever travel through this SoMid area,
you'll hear the first syllable stress pattern regularly, from ordinary
folk, politicians, and newscasters--and not in mockery.

Beverly

At 04:06 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
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>I don't know that I've ever consciously heard "DIS-patch," except in
>mock Southern or Southwestern dialect. The local newspaper in Saint
>Louis has always been the "Post-dis-PATCH."
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>-Wilson
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>On 7/19/07, Bradley A. Esparza <baesparza at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > But, don't you dis-PATCH from DIS-patch?
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> > On 7/19/07, Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at ohio.edu> wrote:
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> > > The fight really isn't worth fighting, Wilson!  Do you fuss about
> > > UM-brella
> > > and DIS-patch too, btw?  Perfectly normal South Midland pronunciations.
> > >
> > > At 03:11 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote:
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> > > >"FOR-midable" is currently being used in the voice-over for an ad that
> > > >occasionally runs on local TV. Otherwise, it's been dekkids, ca. the
> > > >Vietnam era, since I've heard the word used. As for "exquisite," I
> > > >hear it all the time on TV, on the radio, and in the wild, and it's
> > > >always "ex-QUIsite." I fight the good fight and continue to use
> > > >"EX-quisite," but I'm pretty much alone in that. Even my wife uses
> > > >"ex-QUIsite."
> > > >
> > > >-Wilson
> > > >
> > > >On 7/18/07, James Harbeck <jharbeck at sympatico.ca> wrote:
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> > > > > >I say, "Well, you never know." In the '50's, IIRC, "FOR-midable"
> > > > > >became "for-MIDable." Now, the word seems to have returned to
> > > > > >"FOR-midable." OTOH, the shift of "EX-quisite" to "ex-QUIsite,"
> which
> > > > > >may have occurred around the same time - memory fails - appears
> to be
> > > > > ><sob!> permanent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny. I use "forMIDable" and am used to hearing that; I only expect
> > > > > "FORmidable" from Brits. OTOH, I'm quite used to "EXquisite"; I use
> > > > > it myself (but not invariably -- however, I don't have a clear
> > > > > criterion to trot out governing my choice; I suspect it's related to
> > > > > which pronunciation I've most recently heard, and perhaps which
> > > > > general tone or register I'm using) and I think I may hear it more
> > > > > often than "exQUISite," though I can't say so with certainty, since I
> > > > > don't hear either all that often.
> > > > >
> > > > > James Harbeck.
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