Fw: Teenage speak and beyond

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Jun 1 02:42:34 UTC 2007


Good point, Richard.  Interesting the dynamic of how accents start.  They
can start with kids, just like clothing styles change.  If it hits the media
and can spread like wildfire - totally arbitrary and capricious and in
violation of spelling conventions.   I hear "keds" for "kids" and "sex" for
"six".  My favorite is "chooldren" (Where "oo" is as in "wool") for
children.

Another favorite is what I call the California power purr.  (linguists must
have a term for this, hopefully not in greek).  It's a purring sound down in
the vocal chords that show a very relaxed casual, almost fay attitude, like
nothing is bothering me, I'm so above it all I'm purring

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
See truespel.com - and the 4  truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
authorhouse.com.





>From: Richard Vallis <rvallis at OPTONLINE.NET>
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>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Fw: Teenage speak and beyond
>Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:05:20 -0400
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>  In my experience, the  individuals to which I refer, DO NOT speak this
>way
>prior to adolescence.  They acquire an affectation after the onset of their
>teen years.  Hence,  it is not a regional speech pattern.
>It can be heard in Great Neck, Rosllyn, Scarsdale and New Rochelle in  the
>New York City vicinity where I live, and in upwardly mobile  neighborhoods
>of other metropolitan areas.
>Perhaps you might want to dig a little deeper into this.
>
>Richard Vallis
>
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>From: "Michael H Covarrubias" <mcovarru at PURDUE.EDU>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:40 PM
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> > Better points than anything I was trying to make. Well taken.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Quoting "Gordon, Matthew J." <GordonMJ at MISSOURI.EDU>:
> >
> > > Both the lowering of /E/ and the backing of /ae/ are found in the =
> > > California Shift and the Canadian Shift. People inclined to believe in
>=
> > > chain shifting might chalk these movements up to the presence of the =
> > > low-back merger (cot=3Dcaught) in both these regions. But, feel free
>to
>=
> > > ignore such structuralist explanations and continue psychoanalyzing.
> > >
> > > Self-promotion: http://www.pbs.org/speak/ahead/change/changin/
> > >
> > > -Matt Gordon
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >
> > > >  In what appears to be an attempt at speech sophistication, the =
> > > adolescent
> > > > girl (and occasional guy) characteristically distorts the vowel =
> > > sounds,
> > > > especially  the  "e" as in the word best.  Best becomes "bast" or =
> > > "bost" or
> > > > "bus."  Better becomes "batter" as the mouth opens wide to
>accommodate
>=
> > > this
> > > > apparently classy way of enunciating.  Other vowel sounds are =
> > > similarly
> > > > affected by the sophisticatedly wide open mouth.  Bush becomes
>"bahsh"
>=
> > > and on
> > > > it goes, endlessly.  What's more daunting, is that the individual =
> > > continues
> > > > this distortion into post adolescence and beyond when a young
>person's
> > > > apparent need for "fitting in" and peer pressure would seem to be
> > > > diminished.
> > > >
> > > > Television personalities and actors have generally been purged of
>it,
>=
> > > but it
> > > > maddeningly rears itself, wide-mouthed, in commercials.  What's =
> > > surprising is
> > > > that most listeners don't seem to notice the bend in pronunciation =
> > > until it's
> > > > pointed out to them....
> > > >
> > > > Richard Vallis
> > > >
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