Tense in BE

Dennis Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Wed May 30 12:37:55 UTC 2007


The traditional explanation is that stative verbs (know, love, have,
etc...) do not "take" the progressive.

dInIs

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>I've heard "I've *been* knowin' that!" from younger white speakers
>in East Tennessee, though only one or two of them.
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>Have we ever discussed the (formerly?) regional use of the present
>progressive for the simple present in certain verbs that
>traditionally don't use it?
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>E.g., the current MacDonald's slogan, "I'm lovin' it!" instead of SE
>"I love it!"
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>East Tennesseans were saying "I'm lovin' it/ this!" at least thirty
>years ago.  It still sounds weird to me.
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>JL
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>Margaret,
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>I remember quite distinctly "I BEEN knowing this" (with remotive
>stressed BEEN) from Black speakers (Louisville area) from some time
>ago (50s). As I recall, however, the context was "Why are you telling
>me what I've known for a long time?" The remotive plus progressive is
>not at all rare, and this could be the source for the "knowing this"
>for you cite, but in your memory it seems to be a simple agreement
>marker while I remember it as a slightly annoyed response to old news.
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>I know; this breaks Preston's law of sociolinguistics #2. But since
>both my laws are broken daily here, I can't resist.
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>dInIs
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>>Wilson Gray  wrote:    When I was stationed in
>>Berlin ca.1961, I used to hear some black GI's
>>say "knowin' this" instead of "fuckin' A" or "I'm hip." At the time, I
>>figured that this was local slang brought from home, wherever that
>>was.
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>>And the cool way to say it was with the stress on the first
>>syllable, "know' in this," used to indicate that you agree with what
>>someone has just said.
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>>    Margaret
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