No mo' "ho ho ho"

Dennis R. Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Thu Nov 15 19:32:01 UTC 2007


Wilson,

For some time we have know that there is correct political
correctness and incorrect political correctness. But who are we
willing to have as the decider in such matters.

dInIs

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>Could it truly be the case that *anyone* could possible believe that
>women or children hearing a man in a Santa Clause costume saying "Ho!
>Ho! Ho!" would think that the man was using the BE term for
>"Prostitute! Prostitute! Prostitute!"? Y'all must be done lost y'all's
>minds.
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>-Wilson
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>On 11/15/07, Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at csli.stanford.edu> wrote:
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>>  On Nov 15, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Charlie Doyle wrote:
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>>  > From the AFP wire, posted at Yahoo! News:
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>>  > << Santas in Australia's largest city have been told not to use
>>  > Father Christmas's traditional "ho ho ho" greeting because it may be
>>  > offensive to women, it was reported Thursday. >>
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>>  > Santas in Sydney now say "Ha ha ha."
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>>  next development, reported in several places, is rebellion.  from
>>     http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=323141
>>  under the head "Sydney Santas rebel against ho-ho no-no":
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>>  Sydney Santas have reportedly defied a request from a recruitment firm
>>  to replace "ho ho ho" with "ha ha ha".
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>>  Two Santa trainees from Westaff, which supplies hundreds of men in red
>>  suits to Australian shopping centres, have quit over the politically
>>  correct new greeting, the Daily Telegraph reports.
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>>  Trainees were told the traditional phrase could scare children and be
>>  taken as derogatory to women.
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>>  "We ask our Santas to try techniques such as lowering their tone of
>>  voice and using 'ha ha ha' to encourage the children to come forward
>>  and meet Santa," Westaff's national Santa co-ordinator Sari Hegarty
>>  told the paper.
>>
>>  But Santas at department stores David Jones, Myers and the Westfield
>>  shopping centre chain will still use the customary greeting as part of
>>  their customers Christmas experience.
>>
>>  "Senior management (at Westaff) have assured us that Santas provided
>>  to David Jones have not been censored in any way," a David Jones
>>  spokeswoman told the Telegraph.
>>
>>  Julie Gale from Kids Free to 2B Kids said Santa should be left alone.
>>
>>  "We are talking about little kids who do not understand that 'ho ho
>>  ho' has any other connotation and nor should they," she told the paper.
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Dennis R. Preston
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