Whiz

Dennis Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Thu Sep 27 11:50:25 UTC 2007


What! Wilson surely you go back to "powder my nose" (if not
"straighten the seams on my stockings").

dInIs

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>I once heard a woman say, "take a dump." It sounded gross.
>Fortunately, I've not had the displeasure of hearing a woman use any
>of the other forms. That may seem a little prissy, but, once upon a
>time, even hearing a woman say, "I have to go to the bathroom,"
>grossed me out. The only proper usage for women for me, at one time,
>was, "Excuse me."
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>-Wilson
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>On 9/26/07, Charles Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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>>  OK, a person (at least a male; do the same expressions commonly
>>refer to female activities of the corresponding sort?) can "take a
>>X"; X can be "whiz" or "leak" or "piss" or "pee" or "shit" or
>>"dump" or "dooky" or possibly other eliminations of a nether
>>sort--but NOT *"turd" or *"urine."
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>>  The object of "take" designates an action (an act of X-ing), not
>>just the substance deposited. Even though the permissible X's are
>>clearly nouns (preceded by the definite article), the allowable X
>>words can, in other environments, function as verbs, whereas "turd"
>>and "urine" can't.
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>>  There must be exceptions or outright contradictions to this little
>>hypothesis!
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>>  And then there are upper-body eliminations: We can't *"take a
>>spit" or *"take a vomit." In our expressions, "take" seems to imply
>>premeditation, deliberation, perhaps even a certain formality.
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Dennis R. Preston
University Distinguished Professor
Department of English
Morrill Hall 15-C
Michigan State University
East Lansing, MI 48864 USA

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