yahoo (was: 'Top Words from 2007'...)

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Tue Apr 1 17:07:23 UTC 2008


Tom,
I've heard yahoo used exactly as the definition says, often with
rednecky overtones, as well.  This from OH and MI.

Yours,
Paul Johnston
On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:

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> Sorry about the strange characters in the phonetic spelling.  What
> the world needs is an English based phonetic spelling (truespel)
> that copies and pastes with no problem in email.
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> We should all be familiar with the "yahoo.com" ads on TV.  It's
> pronounced YAH-hoo (~yaahue), or even yah-HOO (~yaahhue) in the TV
> ads, not YAY-hoo as m-w.com says (not that m-w.com isn't a great
> resource).  The ad pronunciation is perhaps a billion times more
> frequent in the ears of most folks than any other.
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> I've never heard anyone called a "yahoo".  It's rare.  It's mostly
> a happy interjection!  Why would a website call themselves "yahoo"
> if the meaning usually stood for "crass boorish or stupid?.
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> The logical "or" means the "yahoo person" can be boorish (surly
> rudeness), or crass (undignified), or stupid.  This is strange
> because one can boorish and crass without being stupid.
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> Two lemmas for one word?  In most dictionries if a word has two
> uses or meanings they are given under one dictionary word (as m-
> w.com usually does).  It's nice to see that "yahoo" is recognized
> somewhere as an interjection (like yippee).
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> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:29:59 -0400
>> From: halldj at BABEL.LING.UPENN.EDU
>> Subject: yahoo (was: 'Top Words from 2007'...)
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>> Tom said:
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>>> Main Entry: 1ya·hoo
>>> Pronunciation: \ˈyā-(ˌ)hü, ˈyä-\
>>> Function: noun
>>> Inflected Form(s): plural yahoos
>>> Date: 1726
>>> 1capitalized : a member of a race of brutes in Swift's Gulliver's
>>> Travels who
>>> have the form and all the vices of humans
>>> 2[influenced by 2yahoo] : a boorish, crass, or stupid person
>>> — ya·hoo·ism \-ˌi-zəm\ noun
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>> (BTW, the strange characters, if you see strange characters above,
>> are what
>> appeared in my copy of this message, but I looked the word up in
>> _MW Online_ to
>> see what the lemma actually said.)
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>> [snip]
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>>> Strange definition 2; because one could be boorish and crass
>>> while not being
>>> stupid. They probably mean "and" stupid.
>>
>> No, the _or_ is disjunctive, not conjunctive: 'someone who (the
>> speaker
>> considers) is boorish, or crass, or stupid, or a combination of
>> one or more of
>> these'.
>>
>>> I thought the word "yahoo" was just a happy exclamation of
>>> western roots like
>>> yippee. But that's not in the definition above.
>>
>> No, because it is given a separate lemma in both _MW_ and the
>> _OED_ (to take
>> another example). In both dictionaries, the noun senses of _yahoo_
>> are
>> definition 1, and the interjection / exclamation sense is
>> definition 2.
>>
>> Damien Hall
>> University of Pennsylvania
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