British accent stereotypes - 'news'

Barbara Need nee1 at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Fri Apr 4 19:39:32 UTC 2008


It was Eric Hamp who, when he once said [farId], made me realize the
rhyme worked!

I usually use the [-hEd] pronunciation myself--I think I have [o] in
the first syllable, but I won't swear to it.

Barbara

Barbara Need
UChicago

On 4 Apr 2008, at 14:27, Wilson Gray wrote:
> I, too, say [farId], Charlie. Maybe it's an East-Texas thang. A friend
> - white, late-twenties lawyer born in California, reared in Hawaii,
> educated at Brandeis and Suffolk (Boston is in Suffolk, MA, county)
> universities, once questioned my pronunciation. I suggested that she
> recite aloud the relevant nursery rhyme. She was actually taken aback
> to discover that, by using my pronunciation, she could make the other
> couplet rhyme, too! This struck her as being so cool that she decided
> to start using "forrid" herself. Hopefully, she's sticking with that
> resolution. "Each one teach one," to coin a phrase.
>
> Which reminds me of the time that a Canadian friend had an epiphany
> when she realized that the Alphabet Song rhymes fully, if you use
> American "zee" and not Canadio-British "zed."
>
> -Wilson
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Charles Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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>>  Case in point . . . .
>>
>>  Just a few moments ago in class, mentioning some prominent
>> imagery patterns in a Jacobean play, I pronounced the word
>> "forehead" in my customary way, [farId] (the second vowel may be a
>> barred-"i"). Half the students professed not to know what word I
>> was uttering; the other half delicately referred to my
>> pronunciation as "something out of _Deliverance_"). And this is in
>> Georgia!
>>
>>  --Charlie
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>>> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:54:33 -0400
>>> From: Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: Re: British accent stereotypes - 'news'
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>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Gillian Kyles
>>> <vaggmk at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>>>>>
>>>>> Forwarded from the forensic linguistics list.  (Pretty amazing
>>>>> that
>>>>> research has actually shown that people form impressions of others
>>>>> based on how they speak...)
>>>>
>>>>  The writer of the above should live in the South where until
>>>>  relatively recently a certain type of Virginia accent and most
>>>> other
>>>>  rural southern accents were definitely associated with a certain
>>>>  perceived dimness of mind!
>>>
>>> Larry neglected to put in an explicit irony marker.
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