Barry Popik namecheck

[George Thompson]

My favorite figure of 19th c american History (outside of NYC) is Decimus et Ultimus Barziza.  I know nothing about him, beyond his name; but what more do I need to know?  (He wrote a book on his Civil War experiences.)

Actually, it would be nice to know whether the "et Ultimus" was his father's idea or his mother's.

GAT

George A. Thompson
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, April 5, 2008 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Barry Popik namecheck
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU


> The ancient Romans used a variation of this naming method. No doubt
> everyone here recalls Quintus, i.e. "Fifth," Tullius Cicero, one of
> Caesar's generals and Marcus Tullius Cicero's younger brother. The
> Romans had no names for women at all, only feminine ordinal numerals
> and their nicknominal and diminutive variants, for example,
> "Priscilla," a nickname based on "Prima," i.e. "First (Daughter)."
>
> -Wilson
>
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
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> >  No, the "8" is not a misprint. She's a regular reporter on the NYT
> staff.
> >
> >  Her parents are from Taiwan, where evidently it is somewhat common
> to add
> >  numerical characters to names. See
> >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_8._Lee.
> >
> >  She is also credited with coining the term "man date," referring to
> a social
> >  engagement between two heterosexual men.
> >  (http://www.wordspy.com/words/mandate.asp)
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of
> >  Michael Quinion
> >  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:37 AM
> >  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >  Subject: Barry Popik namecheck
> >
> >  Someone billed as Jennifer 8. Lee (is this a misprint, I wonder, or
> have
> >  numbers become the new initials?) writes in the New York Times online
> >  today about apples, apple trademarks and legal action arising therefrom.
> >  She quotes Barry Popik and describes him as a "cultural
> etymologist". It's
> >  a neat term that I may appropriate without credit ...
> >
> >  http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/its-like-comparing-apples-to-
> >  apples/?hp
> >
> >
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> >
> > Michael Quinion
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