Standard non-standardisms (was: Heard on The Judges: sE > to BE)

Dennis Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Wed Apr 9 14:53:59 UTC 2008

In non-Dylan versions from the "folk years" (that
near death for American music, maybe even closer
than disco) the velar nasal is frequent - ones I
overheard, of course, since I wouldn't have
chosen to listen to them myself.


PS: For whom A Mighty Wind was almost too much
like the horrible reality to be funny.

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>Subject:      Standard non-standardisms (was: Heard on The Judges: sE > to BE)
>dInIs wrote:
>>  I guess I don't consider any cases of r-lessness as
>>  nonstandard so don't give me no Pahk yuh cah in Hahvahd Yahd stuff.
>Glad to hear it!
>On the principle of not including brand-names like _Dunkin' Donuts_ in a
>collection of non-standardisms, because they've never occurred in the standard
>form *_Dunking Donuts_ and don't occur like that, because they're always used
>in the non-standard, indeed trademarked form:  I agree that for this reason
>such non-standardisms should not be included in a collection of spontaneous
>productions.  But, as a side-note, formal contexts can produce the interesting
>effect of re-introduction of the standard form into these fossilised
>non-standards, so speakers are clearly still aware of what the standard
>'should' be.  I remember being struck by this while doing a study where we got
>speakers to fill the blank in the sentence
>Bob Dylan sang "Blowiní in the Wind" to protest against _____________.
>to test their production of short-a in _sang_.  At least one white,
>middle-class, middle-aged male speaker produced a velar nasal in the
>song-title, even though it doesn't officially have one (in the official
>discography on Dylan's website) and wasn't presented with one in the stimulus.
>Damien Hall
>University of Pennsylvania
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Dennis R. Preston
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Department of English
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Michigan State University
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