"flying fuck"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Apr 17 15:36:48 UTC 2008

What's the basis of attributing this to Saltoalto?

  Especially since various birds, eagles notably, are known to engage in such behavior, not caring who's around.


"David A. Daniel" <dad at POKERWIZ.COM> wrote:
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Though a little weak on etymology, Urban Dictionary has 15 entries for
flying fuck. My favorite is number 4 which includes the modifier "through a
rolling donut", as in "nobody gives a flying fuck through a rolling
donut...". But the origin of flying fuck in its literal sense has always
been attributed to Caralho Saltoalto who is known to history by the
pseudonym "Signor Bona Slang" who was, it may be recalled, "the daring young
man on the flying trapeze" who "all girls he did please".

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My take on "flying fuck", without ever having asked anyone what they
thought "flying" meant, is from OED2 flying ppl. a. sense 4.c.,
"Passing, flitting; hasty, transient". Thus a flying fuck isn't
worth much because it's over too quickly. But perhaps I'm immersed
too much in the 18th century (for "flying", that is -- when G.
Washington coined "flying hospital", as discovered by yours truly).

(I see the phrase has made it to the OED, draft additions March 2008,
s.v. flying ppl. a., but not assigned to a specific sense as far as I
can see, and thus no clue as to etymology. Earliest spotting 1938,
letter of J. O'Hara, then 1951 J. Jones _From Here to Eternity_.)


At 4/17/2008 07:22 AM, Paul wrote:
>paul johnson wrote:
>My understanding has always been that a FF was the act of launching
>yourself, fully extended , from the foot of the bed with the intention
>of reaching full penetration as you hit the bed. The only other
>daredevil sexual act is the standing position while in a hammock, there
>must be others, I'm sure.
>RonButters at AOL.COM wrote:
>>Which raises the really important question, "What, exactly, is a flying
>>In a message dated 4/16/08 8:48:04 PM, dad at POKERWIZ.COM writes:
>>>Who, with any view to any realistic
>>>endeavor of the human mind [sic], would really give a flying fuck if
>>>the coiner or not
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