Rosa/rowz@

Benjamin Lukoff blukoff at ALVORD.COM
Tue Apr 22 03:24:41 UTC 2008


On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Tom Zurinskas wrote:

> Why don't you take some classes and let us know what your teacher says.

Done...

> Remember, trust what your teacher says, not what you hear or think.

The earth sure LOOKS flat....

> And do you agree with MAM that all long vowels in American English are
> two-phthonged?  Why don't you give us your own voice files as I have
> done here with qlippits to demonstrate.  Or take a class and find out
> how.

OK, lesson learned...shoulda taken my own advice....

> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at authorhouse.com.
>
> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:33:10 -0700
> > From: blukoff at ALVORD.COM
> > Subject: Re: Rosa/rowz@
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> > On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
> >
> >> I don't believe off-glides are part of diphthongs such as
> >> for the long vowels. Off glides happen before some consonants and not
> >> before others. To me all long vowels sound like one-phthong not two.
> >> I'd be glad to hear words spoken in m-w.com that illustrate the
> >> difference.
> >
> > Where are you located? Perhaps a phonetics class at your local university
> > would help.
> >
> > I also remember some IPA training software from the 90s which would
> > pronounce each sound alone and in context.
> >
> > Basically, the key is ear training.
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