"thing/think" [was: on the eggcorn beat]

[Jonathan Lighter]

I grew to the age of about eighteen believing that "another _thing_ coming" was inexplicably the correct idiom.

  My personal explanation, IIRC, was that the "thing" was whatever would change your mind.

  JL

"Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
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I wondered at the time, and still do, whether Wright intended a sly
reference to a "thing" that might come to the white man; that is,
with an intentional additional meaning beyond "think".

Joel

At 4/30/2008 10:58 AM, Arnold M. Zwicky wrote:
>On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:14 AM, David Bowie wrote:
>
>>From: "Arnold M. Zwicky"
>>
>>>from the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., as reported in today's NYT (p.
>>>A14):
>>
>>>"If you think I'm going to let you talk about my mama, and her
>>>religious tradition," he said, pausing a beat, "you got another thing
>>>coming."
>>
>>If this was a transcription of an unwritten statement, though, it's
>>unclear whether this is an eggcorn in production (i.e., that's
>>precisely
>>what Rev. Wright said) or an eggcorn in perception (i.e., that's not
>>what he said, but rather it's how the transcriber heard it).
>
>yes indeed. the quotation is from a monday address at the National
>Press Club.
>
>the Fox News transcript (like the NYT) has "thing":
>
>http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/28/transcript-rev-wright-at-the-national-press-club/
>
>here's the Fox News transcript of the relevant piece, an answer to a
>question from the moderator about why wright is speaking out now:
>
>----
>As said, this is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright. It has nothing to
>do with Senator Obama. It is an attack on the black church launched
>by people who know nothing about the African-American religious
>tradition.
>
>And why am I speaking out now? In our community, we have something
>called playing the dozens. If you think I'm going to let you talk
>about my mama and her religious tradition, and my daddy and his
>religious tradition, and my grandma, you've got another thing coming.
>
>----
>
>note that this supplies some material that was elided by the NYT. the
>NYT also has the location of that pause wrong; it came after "my
>mama", and was definitely (coming right after a reference to the
>dozens and its "yo mama" figure) a sly appeal to the audience.
>
>but some other print sources have "think" -- e.g., Jake Tapper on ABC
>News:
>
> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/wright-assails.html
>
>the recording i've listened to has what i hear as "think".
>unfortunately, that doesn't tell us what wright was aiming at; some
>speakers sometimes realize word-final /N/ with a short [k] at the end,
>and in context before the [k] of "coming" word-final /Nk/ might be
>simplified to /N/. so we can't easily determine the mental reality
>from the phonetics. now if we knew how wright *spelled* the word,
>we'd have some evidence.
>
>"think/thing coming" on Language Log:
>
>AZ, 6/29/04: The thin line between error and mere variation (part 1 of
>2):
> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001133.html
>
>ML, 9/28/07: Another thing coming:
> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004971.html
>
>BZ, 9/28/07: Have another think:
> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004972.html
>
>arnold
>
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