At the Olympics: time reference

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Tue Aug 12 22:31:50 UTC 2008


At 8/12/2008 05:24 PM, Barbara Need wrote:
>Well, it is not just broadcasters (a swimmer referred to events that
>had happened during the morning as "evening events", and, based on my
>TV grid (I don't watch sports usually), the events in question are
>not prototypically evening events.

I think the swimming events are protypically evening -- because they
have big appeal to Americans.  That's why NBC pressured the IOC and
China to hold them in the morning.

Joel

>I will try to pay attention this
>evening(!).
>
>Barbara
>
>On 12 Aug 2008, at 16:10, Alice Faber wrote:
>
>>I lost the beginning of this thread. But, as I recall, it was about
>>broadcasters using "this evening" referring to a sports event
>>occurring
>>during daylight hours. This is something that we've discussed
>>previously
>>with regard to "day baseball" and the like. Because for many sports
>>the
>>default game-time is after dinner, it's not at all unusual for any
>>temporal adverbs referring to game-time events to be from the set
>>"tonight", "this evening", etc.
>>
>>Barbara Need wrote:
>>>I don't think so. After all, many of the athletes being interviewed
>>>are from other US time zones. And I never had any problem knowing
>>>what time of day it was where I was--but always had to count to
>>>figure out what time it was back in the States when abroad (South
>>>America and Europe).
>>>
>>>
>>>On 12 Aug 2008, at 14:30, David Bergdahl wrote:
>>>
>>>>Isn't the time reference thing simply that to the speakers "NY
>>>>Time" is *
>>>>real* and everything else is foreign?
>>>>-db
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Doug Harris
>>>><cats22 at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>That really gives new meaning to getting ahead of oneself, doesn't
>>>>>it?
>>>>>Thanks for pointing that out.
>>>>>(Then again, if you're looking to bet on a sure thing, getting that
>>>>>far in front of everyone else could pay off!)
>>>>>dh
>>>>>
>>>>>Matthew Gordon said:
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>There is also apparently a significant time difference between
>>>>>whereever
>>>>>Doug Harris is and the mainland US. It's already September (or
>>>>>December if
>>>>>he's European) there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9/12/08 11:05 AM, "Doug Harris" <cats22 at FRONTIERNET.NET> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I imagine that [post-facto dubbing] actually _is_ the case --
>>>>>>but who's fooling who? Anyone who doesn't understand there's
>>>>>>a (significant) time difference from China to the mainland US
>>>>>>should devote less attention to the Olympics and more to what
>>>>>>used to be _basic_ studies in this country.
>>>>>>dh
>>>>>>
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