At the Olympics: time reference

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Aug 13 10:54:34 UTC 2008


Heard yesterday:  In popularity among Americans, swimming has now
risen past track and field to second, following only scopophilia ...
I mean gymnastics.

Joel

At 8/12/2008 06:31 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>At 8/12/2008 05:24 PM, Barbara Need wrote:
>>Well, it is not just broadcasters (a swimmer referred to events that
>>had happened during the morning as "evening events", and, based on my
>>TV grid (I don't watch sports usually), the events in question are
>>not prototypically evening events.
>
>I think the swimming events are protypically evening -- because they
>have big appeal to Americans.  That's why NBC pressured the IOC and
>China to hold them in the morning.
>
>Joel
>
>>I will try to pay attention this
>>evening(!).
>>
>>Barbara
>>
>>On 12 Aug 2008, at 16:10, Alice Faber wrote:
>>
>>>I lost the beginning of this thread. But, as I recall, it was about
>>>broadcasters using "this evening" referring to a sports event
>>>occurring
>>>during daylight hours. This is something that we've discussed
>>>previously
>>>with regard to "day baseball" and the like. Because for many sports
>>>the
>>>default game-time is after dinner, it's not at all unusual for any
>>>temporal adverbs referring to game-time events to be from the set
>>>"tonight", "this evening", etc.
>>>
>>>Barbara Need wrote:
>>>>I don't think so. After all, many of the athletes being interviewed
>>>>are from other US time zones. And I never had any problem knowing
>>>>what time of day it was where I was--but always had to count to
>>>>figure out what time it was back in the States when abroad (South
>>>>America and Europe).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 12 Aug 2008, at 14:30, David Bergdahl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Isn't the time reference thing simply that to the speakers "NY
>>>>>Time" is *
>>>>>real* and everything else is foreign?
>>>>>-db
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Doug Harris
>>>>><cats22 at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>That really gives new meaning to getting ahead of oneself, doesn't
>>>>>>it?
>>>>>>Thanks for pointing that out.
>>>>>>(Then again, if you're looking to bet on a sure thing, getting that
>>>>>>far in front of everyone else could pay off!)
>>>>>>dh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matthew Gordon said:
>>>>>>---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is also apparently a significant time difference between
>>>>>>whereever
>>>>>>Doug Harris is and the mainland US. It's already September (or
>>>>>>December if
>>>>>>he's European) there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 9/12/08 11:05 AM, "Doug Harris" <cats22 at FRONTIERNET.NET> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I imagine that [post-facto dubbing] actually _is_ the case --
>>>>>>>but who's fooling who? Anyone who doesn't understand there's
>>>>>>>a (significant) time difference from China to the mainland US
>>>>>>>should devote less attention to the Olympics and more to what
>>>>>>>used to be _basic_ studies in this country.
>>>>>>>dh
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