anise

[Laurence Horn]

At 12:53 PM -0400 8/19/08, Lynne Murphy wrote:
>Maybe we should interpret 'standard' in a non-technical way in my claim
>below, but I've only heard it as "a NIECE" in the southeastern BrE that I
>hear, and have been mocked (a little) for saying something that sounds more
>like "anus".
>
>Lynne

Is the pronunciation of "anus" different there too?  For me, it's
only ['eyn at s], which doesn't sound enough like ['aen at s] to motivate
even light mockery; it would be like teasing someone for being named
"Pennice".

LH

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>--On Monday, August 18, 2008 7:42 am -0400 Charles Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU>
>wrote:
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>>The OED records only the one pronunciation--with the first syllable
>>stressed!
>>
>>--Charlie
>>_____________________________________________________________
>>
>>---- Original message ----
>>>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:57:48 -0400
>>>From: Lynne Murphy <m.l.murphy at SUSSEX.AC.UK>
>>>Subject: Re: anise
>>>
>>>She's using the standard British pronunciation, but 'aniseed' is
>>>pronounced the same as in AmE.
>>>
>>>Similarly the Frenchified pronunciation of 'endive' is the usual BrE
>>>pronunciation (when they're not calling it 'chicory').
>>>
>>>Lynne
>>
>>>
>>>--On Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:06 am -0400 Charles Doyle
>>><cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A couple of days ago on the Food Network, Rachael Ray, more than once,
>>>>pronounced "anise" as [@ 'nis], a pronunciation registered in none of
>>>>the several English dictionaries at hand.
>>>>
>>>>At first I supposed it was just a pretentious faux-French affection, as
>>>>I used to assume "endive" as ['an div] is--though that one is in the
>>>>dictionaries, and it does mimic the actual French pronunciation.  But
>>>>maybe [@ 'nis] exemplifies the "Uranus" ['jUr @ n at s] syndrome--an
>>>>attempt to keep low-minded liteners from thinking about anuses?
>>>>
>>>>--Charlie
>>>>_____________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dr M Lynne Murphy
>>>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>>>Arts B135
>>>University of Sussex
>>>Brighton BN1 9QN
>>>
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>Dr M Lynne Murphy
>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>Arts B135
>University of Sussex
>Brighton BN1 9QN
>
>phone: +44-(0)1273-678844
>http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com
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