Chinglish

Mark Mandel thnidu at GMAIL.COM
Mon Aug 25 01:32:45 UTC 2008


TZ's a certifiable nutcase, possibly a troll -- in terms of behavior he
could be either -- proud of never having studied linguistics, which makes
him "independent of the establishment"... like Velikovsky. Now he's way too
personally invested in his idiocy ever to admit error.

Back to work and sanity.

m a m

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, it's "ching" as in "ching-lish."  "Cheenglish" is not a possible
> pronunciation in English.
>
> Herb
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Poster:       Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > Subject:      Re: Chinglish
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> > So you think it's "chin" as in "chin-glish".  I would think ~cheenglish.
> >
> >
> > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> > See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
> authorhouse.com.
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:13:51 -0400
> >> From: hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
> >> Subject: Re: Chinglish
> >> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> >> Sender: American Dialect Society
> >> Poster: Herb Stahlke
> >> Subject: Re: Chinglish
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> >> The vowels in "cheese" and "chide" don't occur before /ng/ in any
> >> dialect of English that I've heard.
> >>
> >> Herb
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Tom Zurinskas  wrote:
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> >>> Sender: American Dialect Society
> >>> Poster: Tom Zurinskas
> >>> Subject: Re: Chinglish
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> >>> How is "Chinglish" pronounced
> >>>
> >>> 1 as in "chin" where both vowels in the word are the same
> >>> 2 as in "china" with a long i as in "chide"
> >>> 3 as in "ching" with a long ee as in cheese.
> >>>
> >>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> >>> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
> authorhouse.com.
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:37:19 -0400
> >>>> From: bgzimmer at BABEL.LING.UPENN.EDU
> >>>> Subject: Re: Chinglish
> >>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>>>
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> >>>> Sender: American Dialect Society
> >>>> Poster: Benjamin Zimmer
> >>>> Subject: Re: Chinglish
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Now cross-linked on Language Log...
> >>>>
> >>>> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=521
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:20 AM, LanDi Liu wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For those of you interested in the inner workings of English's
> largest
> >>>>> dialect, please see my new article (in two parts), complete with
> sound
> >>>>> files and pictures, posted here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.bjshengr.com/bjs
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Permalinks:
> >>>>>
> http://www.bjshengr.com/bjs/2008/08/a-structured-approach-to-chinglish-pronunciation-1-of-2/
> >>>>>
> http://www.bjshengr.com/bjs/2008/08/a-structured-approach-to-chinglish-pronunciation-2-of-2/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Enjoy!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Randy Alexander
> >>>>> Jilin City, China
> >>>>> My Manchu studies blog:
> >>>>> http://www.bjshengr.com/manchu
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