Constitutional issues

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Dec 9 02:13:33 UTC 2008

Wherein lies the linguistic issue? Have I failed to comprehend
something glaringly obvious to others? Well, perhaps The Bell Curve is
correct, after all.


All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Baker, John <JMB at> wrote:
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>        Um, no.  I posted, but did not write, the quoted material, which
> expresses views with which I do not agree.  I did so only for the
> linguistic issue - should a Saxbe fix (in which the compensation of the
> office of Secretary of State is rolled back, during the period that
> Hillary Clinton holds that office, to the level that prevailed when she
> became a Senator) be considered consistent with the meaning of the
> Eligibility Clause?  That clause provides, "No Senator or Representative
> shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any
> civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have
> been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during
> such time."  Both Democrats and Republicans have used the Saxbe fix in
> the past, and while it has current implications for a Clinton
> appointment, I don't consider it to be an intrinsically partisan issue.
> John Baker
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> It seems pretty clear from this snip that the author (who tellingly
> enough speaks of himself with the royal "we") is really just interested
> in presenting a political rant to ADS-L disguised as some kind of
> lingjuistic issue involving an eccentric and moot interpretation of a
> tiny 18th century corner of the United States Constitution. Will
> somebody in authority please tell him that he is out of order?
> Barak Obama, by the way, is a professor of Constutional Law at one of
> the most respected (and relatively conservative) law schools in the
> nation. I think he can probably figure out what the deal is on his
> Secretary of State's salary, without help from a royalist.
> In a message dated 12/8/08 12:00:35 PM, JMB at STRADLEY.COM writes:
>> But it does make an
>> interesting first test of how serious Barack Obama will be about
>> taking the Constitution's actual words seriously. We know he thinks
>> the Constitution should be viewed as authorizing judicial
>> redistribution of wealth.
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